Economía, tudosis

16 mayo 2012

Y si nos intervienen ¿qué hago?

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La pregunta ha vuelto con intensidad desde que la prima de riesgo española -más que prima ya es nuestra  hermana por el tiempo que hace que la conocemos- con respecto al bono alemán a 10 años ha alcanzado los 507 puntos por primera vez desde que existe el euro. Recuerda, en caso de corralito, la clave es no más de 100.000 euros por banco y titular, si los tienes. Si eres pobre, regocíjate un poco un par de horas, porque a la larga te jorobarán más. Cabeza fría y apretar los dientes, porque no saben que hacer con nosotros.

 

Marca la distancia con respecto a estos elementos

 

Dos recomendaciones previas: La primera es mantener la calma,  porque aunque la situación es gravísima, a España todavía le queda margen de maniobra según los expertos con respecto a nuestra deuda.  Lo sabemos, pero ¿por qué vamos a creer a esos expertos que no han dado una?. Uf, algo habrá que creer.

 

 

La segunda recomendación es que hay que saber que nadie, pero NADIE -y esto incluye a Bruselas, Berlín, Madrid o Washington- sabe bien cómo se puede intervenir en un país como España, que ha sido la octava economía del mundo y que arrastraría a otro de gran tamaño, como Italia. Por tanto, no vale una solución del tipo de Portugal, Irlanda o la desdichada Grecia. Es verdad que no hay dinero para rescatarnos en esas condiciones. Lo más aproximado sería que el BCE tuviera que prestarnos dinero para sanear nuestro sistema financiero, si aparece algún otro Bankia. Si el Gobierno Rajoy tiene que pedir ayuda, el Banco Central Europeo nos pondría condiciones. Veremos cuales.

 

 

SI TIENES AHORRILLOS…

Vale, a lo concreto ¿y yo ciudadano de a pie, qué hago?

 

-Si tienes ahorros en algún banco o caja, mejor dejarlos, pero recuerda, que sea en depósitos en una cuenta a la vista y por menos de 100.000 euros, aunque sólo te den un 1,5 o 2%.  Y no olvides, un solo titular de esa cuenta y 100.000 euros por entidad. Es lo que garantiza el Gobierno desde el 11 de octubre del año 2008, un par de meses después de la quiebra de Lehman Brothers, el inicio de la tormenta económica más perfecta que hemos conocido. Si eres un afortunado y tienes más de 100.000 euros, más sensato es que repartas de 100.000 en 100.000 en diferentes entidades y con un titular.

 

Legalmente, y en casos extremos y desesperados algún leguleyo podría plantearse si, en caso remoto de corralito, un matrimonio en gananciales puede tener cada uno 100.000 euros en la misma entidad, aunque sea un depósito a nombre de él y otro a nombre de ella.

Por si acaso, aplica la norma de los expertos “diversifica el riesgo”, que viene a ser el consejo de tu abuela: nunca pongas todos los huevos en la misma cesta.

 

 

Si tienes tus ahorros en fondos de inversión, fondos de pensiones, y demás, sería conveniente que fueras a tu banco y pidieras la rentabilidad de esos fondos en los últimos años y puedes darte por jorobado. Por más que el asesor de los ricos te diga que no te vayas, que pierdes mucho, tú a lo tuyo. En rentas variables, ni agua.

 

Y si tienes acciones en alguna gran empresa o banco, ya habrás visto que no te queda otro remedio que ajo y agua. Con todo por los suelos, mejor no moverse. Si fueras un experto en mercados -que no lo serás si estas leyendo esto- y tuvieras mucho dinero, estarías comprando a lo bestia esos valores que están tirados, pero aquello del “capitalismo popular” ya lo experimentamos con Terra. Zapatero, a tus zapatos.

 

 

SI VIVES AL DÍA Y NO TIENES AHORROS

Pues de entrada, que nos intervengan te da lo mismo. Incluso si debes dinero, hasta puedes tener tus momentos de regocijo, porque los bancos que te han estado apretando las clavijas van a ser ahora ellos los apretados. Aún así, no te regocijes mucho, que encontrarán la manera de repercutirtelo, ya sea con las normas que imponga Europa para prestarnos, con nuevos recortes, etc. En general, tu vida a corto va a seguir empeorando, porque lo de que te aumenten el sueldo o que encuentres trabajo seguirá pero que muy difícil. Si nos tienen que dar dinero para rescatar a más bancos, la recuperación económica se retrasara dos o tres años, con lo cual tu vida seguirá siendo un asco económico.   

 

 

SI ERES RICO

Pues si eres millonario -aquellos que tienen más de 1 millón de euros para los grandes bancos que administran patrimonios- te da igual que nos intervengan, porque que a estas alturas la mayoría de los millonarios ya habéis sacado una parte de vuesto dinero a Alemania – en euros o dólares- o a Suiza y os justificáis diciendo que seguís la estela de los extranjeros, que ya se han llevado de aquí 128.000 millones de euros. E incluso lo mismo formas parte de esos que salen todos los días diciendo lo de que “hay que tener confianza porque este es un gran país y vamos a levantar la cabeza”. La cabeza la levanta tu SICAV y tus finanzas en un paraíso fiscal caribeño o europeo. Al menos, sé decente y no nos toques las narices.

 

 

 

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  1. J dice:

    Si tengo X dinero en un fondo de inversión debería liquidarlo?
    Si tengo una cuenta compartida pero hay algún problema?

  2. joan dice:

    Si tienes créditos y saliéramos del euro, a que valor se quedarían las deudas?

  3. Frank dice:

    Lo mejor es comprar pequeños lingotes de Oro y Plata de inversión, al menos sabemos que será un valor refugio y por mucho que se devalúe, desaparezca o hagan un corralito, siempre mantendré el poder adquisitivo que tenemos ahora mismo, eso si no sube mas como lo ha estado haciendo estos últimos años. Si os interesa más información podéis contactar conmigo.

  4. Ains dice:

    Buenas! tengo algunos supuestos y preguntas. Soy una de tantos jovenes que se encuentra en Alemania currando, mi familia me quiere mandar aparte de sus ahorros para que los guarde aqui yo, por si las moscas. Mi problema es que, primero, los alemanes me han dicho que si cae Grecia el euro alemán tampoco es seguro con lo cual ya no se de que fiarme. Yluego por otro lado, no se hasta que punto es legal o no empezar a sacar dinero(me da un poco la risa con esta pregunta pq si los millonarios se lo han llevado todo, yo no tendría que tener problemas…), lo tendré que declarar yo aqui en Alemania, impuestos, hasta q punto es rentable??… y sobre todo cuanto se puede sacar? y por que no me dejan llevarmelo todo???
    Gracias! y saludos desde el norte! ;)

    • Jaime dice:

      Dentro de la UE hay libertad de movimiento de capitales, te puedes llevar todo lo que quieras.

      Con respecto a lo de los impuestos, tendrias que tributar por los intereses que generen esos capitales.

      El problema que veo yo es el de justificar los ingresos:

      Si la cuenta es a tu nombre, y de tener un saldo medio de 10€ pasas a tener 10€+xxxx€, eres totalmente sospechoso de estar defraudando. Cuando te inspeccionen, no puedes decir “es de mi tía, no se preocupe, que ella declara todo lo que gana y este dinero no proviene de ninguna actividad ilicita, señer inspector”.

      El dinero es del titular de la cuenta. Si lo quereis hacer bien, que tu tía se abra una cuenta en Alemania y trasfiera su dinero, como si fuera entre sus cuentas en españa. Si necesita indicar una direccion, pones la tuya.

      De todos modos, ya te digo que me parece que es una actitud histerica.

  5. Francisco dice:

    En contra de lo que dice el artículo, si eres del común de los mortales, es decir no tienes más que un poco de dinero en le banco, sácalo todo inmediatamente, ni se te ocurra esperar que el estado va a garantizar 100.000 € por cuenta, PORQUE NI PUEDE NI QUIERE. En todo caso, mejor el dinero en tu bolsillo que en el de otros.

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    15 septiembre, 2014 | 14:19

    La primera orden de la presidenta del Santander a los medios ha sido clara. No me llames Patricia, llámame Ana. La semana pasada era Ana Patricia en todos los titulares, y esta semana es Ana a secas. Ana P. como se ha conocido toda la vida a la primogénita de Emilio Botín en las redacciones [...]

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